AMERICA IS WAKING UP FROM 3 YEARS OF MIND CONTROL--??????

Post by iceman
Using state of the art military technology, 9/11 was a US and Israel
planned, led, attack against America as a pretext to gain access to
the oil fields, and establish permanent US military bases in Iraq, and
run pipelines to Israel. Israel's Mossad planted the explosives in the
three towers over a 2 month period, ran the demolition on the WTC,
Rumsfeld was in charge of the disasterously executed Pentagon attack,
Cheney oversaw the drones and War Games, and kept the military tied
down from responding, Guilani oversaw the control of ground zero area
between the time of impact and demolition to insure sufficient
casualties, and to secure the area to protect the evidence from
examination by experts. The Muslims were the patsies. Some total idiot
devised the cover story.

"Prove it".

These are two words that will continue to follow you around while you make
these claims, until such time as you are actually able to provide
convincing evidence to support them.

So far, you have been unable to do so, relying on simple insistence as a
substitute for proof. Your arguments consist primarily of false premises,
invalid reasoning and flawed conclusions, all papered over in your own mind
in your desire to make 9/11 a little more exciting for yourself.

unknown

2005-07-11 13:41:28 UTC

Post by Midjis
"Prove it".

Why can't you say that to Bush and Cheney?

Too wimpy, are you?

Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

Midjis

2005-07-11 22:26:41 UTC

Post by unknown
Why can't you say that to Bush and Cheney?

Put me in touch with them and I will. Although given that *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11, they might wonder what the
blazes I'm talking about.

Post by unknown
Too wimpy, are you?

No - too rational. See above.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

unknown

2005-07-12 01:39:47 UTC

Post by Midjis
Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

Post by Midjis
... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-12 10:50:24 UTC

Post by Midjis
Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.
Looks like the latter, from your posts.

Keep trying, lad. You'll manage it in the end.

Post by Midjis
... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

Prove it.

Post by unknown
The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

BTW? Well, why didn't you say? 'BTW' signals truth.

Again: prove it.

Post by unknown
You're a dupe.

Pro... Oh, you know.

Post by unknown
Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Guess what you need to do here?

Post by unknown
Don't you know anything?

I know you need to prove your claims. I know you don't make truth by
repetition. And I know you haven't offered any evidence yet.

Well, other than 'BTW'.

unknown

2005-07-12 15:15:31 UTC

...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-12 16:01:04 UTC

Post by unknown
You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

And you only demonstrate the weakness of your position in resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract from the fact
that you have no evidence to back up your claims.

Post by unknown
Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

No. But you are evidently unable to understand why I don't.

unknown

2005-07-12 16:49:58 UTC

... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-13 06:56:46 UTC

Post by unknown
You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

You may, and will, continue to believe whatever makes you feel better.

As far as the destruction of evidence is concerned, I make no such claim
because I have no reason to believe any such evidence exists. In any case,
evidence that was destroyed is still no evidence - and if 'no evidence' is
all you can provide, as it seems it is, then you have no argument beyond
your insistence. And your insistence is worthless.

unknown

2005-07-13 13:47:06 UTC

... continue to believe whatever ...

You believe that those who lie about crimes would do so capriciously.

... I have no reason ...

If you did, you'd understand why officials objected to the hasty removal
and destruction of the evidence from the WTC.

The obstruction of investigation, and the concealment of evidence, is in
fact evidence itself.

You'd need to be able to think to realize that.

... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-13 18:39:49 UTC

Post by unknown
If you did, you'd understand why officials objected to the hasty removal
and destruction of the evidence from the WTC.

There was nothing hasty about it - save the haste necessary to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

Your theory is based on your insistence on facts that simply are not facts.

unknown

2005-07-14 13:55:32 UTC

Post by Midjis
There was nothing hasty about it

You lie.

http://911review.com/coverup/evidence.html

Why do you hate America? Why do you support
those who impose terrorist attacks on Americans?

Post by Midjis
...to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

It still hasn't happened.

Why did your fuhrer Bush lie about the air toxins?

Post by Midjis
...insistence on facts that simply are not facts.

You fail that way every time, and the world knows it.

Post by Midjis
Fascist: a controlling government.

Bush/Cheney qualify, by definition.

Post by Midjis
IDIOT ...

That's your best excuse for your support of fascist terrorism.

Your posts back it up. I say go with it.

Post by Midjis
... continue to believe whatever ...

You believe that those who lie about crimes would do so capriciously.

Post by Midjis
... I have no reason ...

Post by Midjis
... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

Post by Midjis
...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Post by Midjis
Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

Post by Midjis
... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-14 15:32:25 UTC

Post by Midjis
There was nothing hasty about it

You lie.
http://911review.com/coverup/evidence.html

Gosh. A conspiracy site? Well, why didn't you say?

Gospel truth from beginning to end, and no hint of ulterior motives...

Post by unknown
Why do you hate America? Why do you support
those who impose terrorist attacks on Americans?

This is what I mean. You can only wish that I hated America, or
supported terrorist attacks on America, because you need a nice, simple
worldview. You pin everything you have on your notion of a government-
planned 9/11, so of course you have to fight anyone questioning that with
everything you've got. And what's the worst thing you can call an
American? Anti-American. An America-hater. The fact that I'm British
and have the greatest respect for America and its people is irrelevant to
you: I don't believe your conspiracy, therefore I must either be in on
it, or I must want to see your country fall.

I know it must be difficult for you to handle a big complicated world
where there are lots of shades of grey - sorry, gray - but it's just a
choice you'll have to make: come to terms with it, or continue to hide
from it.

Post by Midjis
...to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

It still hasn't happened.

Of course it has. To an impressive degree. You underestimate the
strength of New Yorkers, I think. The only way to defeat terrorism is to
show that you will not be cowed by it. Business in New York goes on -
and in that fact alone the people of NYC and of America have sent a far
more powerful message of resistance than any half-cocked war of George's
could hope to.

Post by unknown
Why did your fuhrer Bush lie about the air toxins?

MY fuhrer? Bless you... I didn't vote for him. I think he's
incompetent and a crook.

But like I said, life isn't as simple as you seem to need it to be. Just
because he's a liar and a fool doesn't make him responsible for 9/11.
We'll need evidence for that - evidence based on more than the mere
insistence of PCTs.

Post by unknown
You fail that way every time, and the world knows it.

What the world knows is that no-one has yet managed to produce any
credible evidence suggesting 9/11 was a put-up job.

What HAVE you produced? Magic missiles, demolition charges, fighter jets
painted up like airliners being flown into the Pentagon... Abject
lunacy.

The basic problem with all this is that these supposed pieces of
'evidence' are in fact entirely cosmetic. In other words, they're
completely unnecessary to any conspiracy theory. If the American
government had wanted to knock the WTC down by flying airliners into it,
they'd have had to have done one thing: fly airliners into the WTC.

But ask a PCT, and we get stories about how the towers couldn't
*possibly* have fallen down without demo charges (and overlook the huge
complexity of setting those charges), how the fires could not have
weakened the structure, how the mobile phone calls couldn't possibly have
been made (and therefore the planes weren't airliners but fuel tankers
packed with fuel, although as we know, fuel fires couldn't possibly have
brought the towers down because the PCTs say so), and so on and so forth.
All of which conjecture is completely surplus to requirements. The
damage inflicted on the WTC and the Pentagon would have been the same
whether radical 'Islamic' religious fanatics were responsible or whether
it was all at the behest of the radical religious fanatic in the White
House. All your stories are worthless. They prove nothing and they are
proved by nothing. They are meaningless in the context of the argument
you are trying to advance and they serve no other purpose but to spice up
an event you evidently did not believe was dramatic enough already.

unknown

2005-07-14 15:54:16 UTC

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/06-14-05/discussion.cgi.68.html

... I hated America...

You still do. That's why you try to lie to defend those who harm it.

You don't even respect yourself enough to avoid spewing fallacies.

Your utter incapacity to refute the facts given you on the sites I've
posted here is not lost on others.

There was nothing hasty about it

You lie.

http://911review.com/coverup/evidence.html

Why do you hate America? Why do you support
those who impose terrorist attacks on Americans?

...to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

It still hasn't happened.

Why did your fuhrer Bush lie about the air toxins?

...insistence on facts that simply are not facts.

You fail that way every time, and the world knows it.

Fascist: a controlling government.

Bush/Cheney qualify, by definition.

IDIOT ...

That's your best excuse for your support of fascist terrorism.

Your posts back it up. I say go with it.

... continue to believe whatever ...

You believe that those who lie about crimes would do so capriciously.

... I have no reason ...

... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-14 18:10:50 UTC

... I hated America...

You still do. That's why you try to lie to defend those who harm it.

Ha! Very good. Now normally I'm the first to protest the irrelevance of
claims of 'selective cut-and-paste', but even I have to admit I'm impressed
with this one. Very, very good indeed, and a clear indication of your
basic dishonesty.

Let's see that full sentence again, shall we?

"You can only wish that I hated America, or supported terrorist attacks on
America, because you need a nice, simple worldview."

Still, now it's clear I'm dealing with a desperate liar, at least I know
where I stand and what sort of standards to expect from you: namely, none.

Post by unknown
You don't even respect yourself enough to avoid spewing fallacies.
Your utter incapacity to refute the facts given you on the sites I've
posted here is not lost on others.

I very much hope not.

unknown

2005-07-14 21:05:16 UTC

Post by Midjis
basic dishonesty.

It's all you have, you poor thing.

Post by Midjis
... a desperate liar, at least I ...

Well, you're good for laughs as you expose your mendacity.

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/06-14-05/discussion.cgi.68.html

Post by Midjis
... I hated America...

Post by Midjis
There was nothing hasty about it

You lie.

http://911review.com/coverup/evidence.html

Why do you hate America? Why do you support
those who impose terrorist attacks on Americans?

Post by Midjis
...to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

It still hasn't happened.

Why did your fuhrer Bush lie about the air toxins?

Post by Midjis
...insistence on facts that simply are not facts.

You fail that way every time, and the world knows it.

Post by Midjis
Fascist: a controlling government.

Bush/Cheney qualify, by definition.

Post by Midjis
IDIOT ...

That's your best excuse for your support of fascist terrorism.

Your posts back it up. I say go with it.

Post by Midjis
... continue to believe whatever ...

You believe that those who lie about crimes would do so capriciously.

Post by Midjis
... I have no reason ...

Post by Midjis
... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

Post by Midjis
...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Post by Midjis
Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

Post by Midjis
... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-14 22:50:41 UTC

Post by unknown
Well, you're good for laughs as you expose your mendacity.

I am perfectly content to allow other readers to judge that. As I said,
you have made your hopeless lack of integrity more than clear.

Now, do you have any other desperate misquotes or schoolyard gimmicks you'd
like to try out before we conclude this farce?

unknown

2005-07-15 01:26:19 UTC

Post by Midjis
I am perfectly content to allow

You enjoyed watching the bodies fall from the towers
and you don't care if the crime is ever solved.

Post by Midjis
... hopeless lack of integrity ...

You even hope innocents get killed by the same perps.

Post by Midjis
basic dishonesty.

It's all you have, you poor thing.

Post by Midjis
... a desperate liar, at least I ...

Well, you're good for laughs as you expose your mendacity.

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/06-14-05/discussion.cgi.68.html

Post by Midjis
... I hated America...

Post by Midjis
There was nothing hasty about it

You lie.

http://911review.com/coverup/evidence.html

Why do you hate America? Why do you support
those who impose terrorist attacks on Americans?

Post by Midjis
...to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

It still hasn't happened.

Why did your fuhrer Bush lie about the air toxins?

Post by Midjis
...insistence on facts that simply are not facts.

You fail that way every time, and the world knows it.

Post by Midjis
Fascist: a controlling government.

Bush/Cheney qualify, by definition.

Post by Midjis
IDIOT ...

That's your best excuse for your support of fascist terrorism.

Your posts back it up. I say go with it.

Post by Midjis
... continue to believe whatever ...

You believe that those who lie about crimes would do so capriciously.

Post by Midjis
... I have no reason ...

Post by Midjis
... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

Post by Midjis
...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Post by Midjis
Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

Post by Midjis
... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

Midjis

2005-07-15 12:22:17 UTC

Post by unknown
You enjoyed watching the bodies fall from the towers
and you don't care if the crime is ever solved.

I'll leave you to continue throwing around desperately feeble accusations
that you've no hope of proving.

Good luck to you!

unknown

2005-07-16 01:28:35 UTC

I'll leave ...

You're a coward. You're being manipulated that way, too.

I am perfectly content to allow

You enjoyed watching the bodies fall from the towers
and you don't care if the crime is ever solved.

... hopeless lack of integrity ...

You even hope innocents get killed by the same perps.

basic dishonesty.

It's all you have, you poor thing.

... a desperate liar, at least I ...

Well, you're good for laughs as you expose your mendacity.

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/06-14-05/discussion.cgi.68.html

... I hated America...

There was nothing hasty about it

You lie.

http://911review.com/coverup/evidence.html

Why do you hate America? Why do you support
those who impose terrorist attacks on Americans?

...to return New
York to some semblence of normality.

It still hasn't happened.

Why did your fuhrer Bush lie about the air toxins?

...insistence on facts that simply are not facts.

You fail that way every time, and the world knows it.

Fascist: a controlling government.

Bush/Cheney qualify, by definition.

IDIOT ...

That's your best excuse for your support of fascist terrorism.

Your posts back it up. I say go with it.

... continue to believe whatever ...

You believe that those who lie about crimes would do so capriciously.

... I have no reason ...

... resorting to
abuse and desperate mud-slinging in an attempt to distract ...

So that's why you tried to say what I caught you saying.

Thanks for the admission.

You also have to admit that 9/11 evidence was rapidly
and systematically destroyed, as well as by whom ...

...lad...

You're just another bushkultie pedophile looking
for a kid to rape.

Do you claim someone other than the Bush crooks
had a hand in hiding 9/11 evidence?

Give me a name.

Put me in touch with them

You have to take responsibility for yourself
at some point, unless you're utterly helpless.

Looks like the latter, from your posts.

... *they're* not
claiming that they were responsible for 9/11...

They're the only ones hiding the evidence.

The 'admissions' are fakes, btw.

You're a dupe.

Post by unknown
Why do you claim they lied about 9/11, had
the evidence destroyed, and did everything
they could, not only to make sure it'd occur,
but to thwart any investigation of the crimes?

I don't. Never said any such thing.

Yet they did lie about it, destroy evidence, and
had done all they could to ensure it happened
as well as stifle investigations afterward.

Don't you know anything?

Enjoy your bliss.

BlackWater

2005-07-15 06:18:51 UTC

Yea ... after three years of chanting "It's AMERICAS fault" some
people are finally waking up ......

unknown

2005-07-16 01:29:02 UTC